Useful Stuff: Professionals/The Chief Crossovers

[m31andy]

I've found I've quite a kink for Professionals/The Chief crossovers. Especially where it turns out that Ray Doyle and Alan Cade are the same person. It's especially weird due to the fact I've never seen the Chief and I've no real intention of rectifying that deficiency.

So, anyway, partly for my information, partly for yours, dear friendslist, I've listed all the crossovers between the two shows that I can find. If you know of any more, please, please let me know in the comments. And I shall love you forever.

*mwah*

Part One – In Which Alan Cade *is* Ray Doyle

The Tangled Web - Jack Reuben Darcy
Bodie/Doyle, Bodie/Alan Cade

Lies and betrayals force Bodie and Doyle apart. Both believe the other dead, until fate allows them to meet once more. But how can a relationship built on both their own lies and other's betrayals survive?


Whatever Happened to Raymond Doyle - Anne Higgins
Bodie/Doyle, Bodie/Alan Cade

1999 and Bodie is in Hong Kong, sent away by his father, Cowley, when Doyle suffered amnesia. Now Cowley wants Bodie back in London, to work with Alan Cade and to see whether he can reawaken the man inside Cade that he once loved.


Reunions - Sue Castle
Part One
Part Two
Bodie/Doyle, Doyle/Female, Sandberg/Ellison

Also a cross-over with The Sentinel, it gets a bit mushy, but is quite fun. Bodie is bodyguarding an Italian judge, Alan Cade is giving a speech, they all meet up in New York where the Italian judge gets kidnapped.

Further revelations are due in the second part, where it is discovered Doyle like to spread his wild oats far and wide...


Comfort and Joy - Meridian
Part One - Comfort
Part Two - Joy
Bodie/Doyle, Bodie/Male, Bodie/Alan Cade

Also a crossover with Homicide: Life on the Streets, when Bodie is alone in States at Christmas, he seeks comfort with a stranger who shows him that it's always better to seek the joy with one's own true love.


An Encounter in Cascade and An Encounter in Eastland - Meridian
Bodie/Doyle, Bodie/Alan Cade, Alan Cade/Male, Ellison/Sandberg

Also a crossover with The Sentinel (quite a popular choice for crossovers, really!). Alan Cade is in Cascade for a conference and is met by Sandberg and Ellison on behalf of his current not-quite-lover, but friendships run much more tangled than that and he runs into the last person he expects, a person he believed dead.


Alone in the Wilderness - Elessar
Bodie/Doyle

Seven years after being forced apart and into a witness protection scheme, Alan Cade and "Philip Williams" are reunited.


The Best of Intentions - Ann O'Nimus
Bodie/Doyle

Years after Bodie is killed, Alan Cade comes out to catch a murderer.


Part Two – In Which Alan Cade *isn't* Ray Doyle

Bodie and the Chief - Anne Higgins
Bodie/Alan Cade

Raymond Doyle never existed. When Bodie is assigned to be liaison between CI5 and Eastland Constabulary, he finds out he enjoys a completely different liaison than the one his father meant.


Christmas Past and Future - Meridian
Bodie/Alan Cade, Doyle Female, Bodie/Doyle

Many years in the future, Ray is a widower, so is Bodie, they seek comfort in each other at Christmas.


Young Man's Fancy - Meridian
Bodie/Alan Cade

Bodie isn't in love with partner, he prefers older men. So he's in deep trouble when the pair are sent to Eastland to work with Doyle's uncle, Alan Cade.


Presents from Eastland - Meridian
Bodie/Alan Cade

Bodie has a new lover, and introduces him to his best friend, Doyle.


The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face - Meridian
Bodie/Alan Cade

Another Bodie/Alan Cade liaison story in which the liaison is of a different nature than expected.


Part Three - In Which It Doesn't Matter Who Doyle (or Cade) is

Leak by Brenda Antrim
Murphy/Cade

A pleasant tale of two territorial animals, with the inevitable ending.


Part Four - In Which Doyle is shagging Cade

Full Circle - Sue Castle
Doyle/Alan Cade

Bodie is dead and Doyle is on the hunt for revenge. Alan Cade is just the person to tool to help him.

Comments

Not quite on topic but...

[draycevixen.livejournal.com]

I've seen other crossovers too, based on characters that MS has played. He's played so many coppers/law men that I suppose it really shouldn't be a surprise (he was actually the first one they offered The Equalizer to, Edward Woodward taking it after MS turned it down).

I recently saw one where Doyle and Judge John Deed were the same person. There appear to be a few writers hard at work on crossing Pros with ALL of MS' later shows... I even saw one with George Gently recently.

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[draycevixen.livejournal.com]

Oh, and I LOVE the typo in your last sentence! *eg*

*is a tool*

[m31andy.livejournal.com]

*dies laughing*

I missed that!

(And now I've got to keep it, damnit!!!)

Re: Not quite on topic but...

[m31andy.livejournal.com]

Yeah, there's a couple of John Deed ones I've spotted. I've not come across a George Gently one though - that shouldn't be too difficult.

I'm still waiting to find a Citizen Chauvelin/Bodie crossover. Now *that* would be mighty fine.

*G*

Re: Not quite on topic but...

[draycevixen.livejournal.com]

Actually, George Gently is off in the time line too... IIRC, the story I saw had Gently meeting one of the lads' fathers.

Chauvelin/Bodie -- I'm sure someone will do it/has done it. *would pay good money* One of my friends, sunray45 recently posted vid clips of Doyle doing that lovely little "lip rub" thing he does when he's thinking along side MS doing the same thing as Chauvelin.





Pros abounds with AU and crossovers. I have to say that I don't really like AU much at all, never did but I have *slightly* more tolerance for crossovers.

Re: Not quite on topic but...

[m31andy.livejournal.com]

*dribbles*

MS is *so* sexy as Chauvelin. Such a bad, bad boy... Mind you, he's pretty sexy as Doyle as well...

I've come across some tolerable AUs, but I still don't get the "Bodie and Doyle are really gentlemen in the 18th century"... A good Bodie/Chauvelin would definitely have to involve high crack and time travel/unpasturised cheese nightmares, I think.

Re: Not quite on topic but...

[draycevixen.livejournal.com]

I've got nothing against the quality of the writing, a great number of AUs being really well written, but my personal tolerance level for AUs pretty much ends at what someone on a friend's LJ called "a simple divergence from canon." As you know, I don't really consider the Hookerverse to be full-on AU but it is a good example of where my tolerance level in the slide toward AU ends.

When they lift the characters and do the 18thC gentlemen type of thing for me, at least, it's no longer Bodie and Doyle and I'm just not interested. If I want to read "original" fiction then I'll read original fiction. I read the ff I read because I *want* to read about those particular characters. I guess that's why I find crossovers more palatable as the characters are still in character... Erm, yes, English *is* my first language, thanks for asking.

Re: Not quite on topic but...

[m31andy.livejournal.com]

Hmm, I think my tolerance towards AUs does extend a little further, but I'm right with you on the displacement of the characters.

Certainly reading in the Pros fandom has made me think quite a lot about AUs. I've come to accept quite a lot of the "playing with canon" AUs (Heat Trace by Helen Raven, where Ray never joins CI5, but still interacts with Bodie is an example, as is Waiting to Fall by Rob), which I never thought I would manage to accept. Plus cracky concepts are always good - that's why I'm a sucker for both Professional Dreamer by Pamela Rose and Twist of Fate by Dee.

But I am worried it's a slippery slope. Now I've started to accept a bit of flexibility of my canon, am I going to suddenly going to hanker after "Spaceman Doyle and Caveman Bodie have a fight - who wins?" stylee of fic?

*is afraid*

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[draycevixen.livejournal.com]

When at least one of the lads is still CI5 I suppose I'd still consider that "a simple divergence from canon" and potentially be interested in reading it.

The thing is, my time to read ff is very limited, so I'd rather spend that time hunting down the things I *really* want to read rather than spending days reading something that doesn't really interest me... and, let's be honest here so many Pros AUs are novel length so we are talking days.

*is afraid for you* That is a *very* scary slippery slope and I'm not even prepared to go and glance over the edge. I've heard rumours about the Bodie/Doyle elf stories for instance and have not even glanced at one. Nooooooooooooo! I think the categories at the new Automated Hatstand will make such things easier to find... and easier to avoid! Oh, and I am of course laughing at myself as I've written the Autogenesis stories... although, brace yourself, I don't really consider those AUs either. Erm...

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[m31andy.livejournal.com]

*giggle*

It's very true - It's taken me a good four months to get through the fanfic on the Circuit Archive, avoiding (most) AUs and reading quite a lot. I think I've only managed one published book this year and I read all the time... Prosfic has eaten my life!!!

Oh hell, yeah. The Elf stories. There's lots of them and it's frightening. Cat!Doyle is almost as scary! Though the Dangermouse crossovers by Debra Hicks are quite amusing.

The line between crack and AU is a blurry one. It's not quite "it's an AU where getting a car pregnant is sensible", and I'm not quite sure why... but it makes sense to me. Probably about the same as girl!Sam being considered crack but not AU. I think? Or would you consider *those* to be AU?

Re: Not quite on topic but...

[draycevixen.livejournal.com]

Well, I think LoM comes with a lot of the Doctor Who type leeway built in... not a "real" world. If Sam can talk to the TCG then why can't he wake up female or get a car pregnant? Apart from being "classic" crack formats, I think it doesn't cross the line into AU because we *still* build these things around their being the active CID officers they are in canon. Even in the Autogenesis nonsense I'll have things happen and have Sam think "they must have changed my medication." Actually, the only AU story I can point to in LoM land is the one where Sam & Gene are soldiers in WWI.

That's one of the reasons why I was so surprised to see so much AU in Pros and that is set so firmly in the "real" world. Again, I suspect it has to do with the fact that after so many years of fan fiction people were just desperate to try something different.

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[m31andy.livejournal.com]

I'm not as surprised as you, mainly because my previous big fandom (before LoM) was SG-1 and there's *so* many AU fic, it's scary. Mind you, it's not as "real" as Pros and the show even has an element of AU in it (what with the Quantum Mirror AND the episode where they all work as firefighters...)

A lot of the high-AU Pros fic (aka the stuff I won't touch with a barge pole) is old though, so I'm not sure it's an excuse in having to branch out. The Hunting series by Jane (one of the infamous elves AUs) is circa 1986, Arabian Nights, in which the boys don't even have their own names, is also from 1986. I could name lots, actually. It looks more like a general trend away from taking characters you know well and putting them in any situation to writing about the meaning behind scenes or reactions. Or, indeed, just torturing the characters for fun. (But as if I know *anyone* who would do such a thing...)

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[draycevixen.livejournal.com]

You???? Torture characters for fun/therapeutic purposes? Heaven forfend!

See again, SG is fantasy so a lot more leeway. I've just never seen much AU in my wanderings through other "reality" based shows. And you're right, it did start early... Hmmm... maybe it has more to do with the fact that for a long time it was extremely difficult to obtain copies of the Pros vids and that a lot of the ff was written in response to other fan fic rather than to the show directly.

[saintvic.livejournal.com]

Oh yes have I mentioned recently that I love you - great list.

I remember enjoying the first couple on the list especially. But then I always like the tragic separation and reunion thing. And I've seen the ones with John Deed as well. *tries to remember the names* *fails* *wanders off to search for them*

[m31andy.livejournal.com]

*grin*

Not this week, I think...

Thanks! As I thought it would be of use to me, I thought I would post it up in hope it would be of use to other people (and, of course, prompt the revealing of any I've missed...) - I've always loved the tragic separation and reunion fics, which many of these embody, which is most likely why I've got such a kink for them.

The Tangled Web and Whatever Happened to Raymond Doyle?, in particular, are wonderful fic. And I've read both of them several times now. Hmm, the second may stand up to *another* reading, if I can't muster any enthusiasm for my ficathon fic...

[saintvic.livejournal.com]

Can't think of any you missed but if I find any I'll let you know.

the second may stand up to *another* reading, if I can't muster any enthusiasm for my ficathon fic

Hell I know that feeling. I've spent the day reading lots of mikey's fic using the new story she posted as an excuse to do so.

Must write something, anything. Damn it.

*goes back to looking for Pros/Judge John Deed crossovers instead*

[angel-ci5.livejournal.com]

Hello there! :-)
This is a great list, I love a good Bodie/Cade-who-is-really-Doyle fic too! *g*
You may want to have a look at The Hatstand here (http://hatstand.slashcity.net/lists/others.html), which has a list of non-Pros character stories including Cade, although some may not be online.

[m31andy.livejournal.com]

Thanks! There are a lot on that list that aren't linked (though I note that several that are up on the Circuit Archive that have missing links), so I shall have to hunt them down!

There's one, I think, that isn't on the list - I shall add. I'm not going to add the Gloria Lancaster ones, though, as, unfortunately, she never finished the sequel. Which is a great shame as it was shaping up to be a wonderful story.

[angel-ci5.livejournal.com]

unfortunately, she never finished the sequel. Which is a great shame as it was shaping up to be a wonderful story.

Yes I agree, actually I wrote to GL about 18 months ago (just cos I love her fics) and I did mention about this unfinished one, and she said she'd recently had some more thoughts on the story and maybe there would be more....so we can but hope!